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  Michael Jackson Reinstated How Long

  by bigbear in

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  in the article below michael jackson, an accused child molester, publicly states he is a jehovah's witness.

  it's no longer just the word of his friend jesse jackson, but his own.

  since he was formerly disfellowshipped, this means he has since been reinstated.

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  meat pie

  Hello, yes you can be re-instated after da'ing yourself, as I was told this just a few weeks ago when I told the elders I no longer thought of myself as a JW.They said they would always welcome me back, Fat chance !

  Cheers, Meaty.
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  Were You Ever Moved To Tears By A JW Moment Like In The Movies?

  by Englishman in

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  just once.. i was on the way home from the 1958 assembly at yankee stadium.

  we were aboard the "arosa sun" and sailing from new york to plymouth, england.

  the ship was pretty well 50 - 50 split between british and german.. when we arrived at plymouth, the british contingent disembarked whilst the germans stayed on board to continue on to bremerhaven.

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  meat pie

  yes, a few times. One was when we had a letter read out that included some words from a little boy (JW family ) who had survived badly injured from the Dunblane massacre.He had said that he was hoping to play with his (murdered) friends again one day.

  Shirley.
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  I am DA'ed

  by meat pie in

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  last wednesday i got the phone call i had asked for, elder with funereal voice asked me if i had changed my mind.

  so an announcement would be made the next evening.. ' ok ,fine!

  thanks for letting me know!

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  meat pie

  Last Wednesday I got the phone call I had asked for, Elder with funereal voice asked me if I had changed my mind.

  'Naaah,'

  so an announcement would be made the next evening.

  ' OK ,fine! thanks for letting me know! bye then ,seeya! '

  My husband and I are now playing a jolly good game of 'Made ya look'

  Driving about today we have encountered a few JWs who could not really avoid us and 'had to ' wave at us maniacally grinning and waving, tooting car horn to attract their attention. We aren't making a nuisance of ouselves, we always behave like this, but it Much more fun now, to see the 'Oh no, I waved' look.

  Tee Hee!

  Norty Meat Pie.
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  DA'ing coming up, to speak out now or not?

  by meat pie in

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  hi there, i know its up to me in the end, but just wondering, what would most of you do?

  my da'ing could be tonight, should i take the opportunity (before they can no longer speak to me ) to tell a few jw's that i am being da'd for telling the truth, or not to bother.

  does it matter anyway.

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  meat pie

  L.T. thanks for the spellcheck ! I thought it wasn't quite how I'd written it, at least you know what I mean !

  I haven't been in the KH for years and don't intend to. No news yet of ' an announcement '.

  In all I have told 3 elders, 1 MS, and 2 women JWs. One of those told another woman JW who would have told her husband, so in that cong of about 40 , that's a sizable percentage.Who knows how many more know via other sources.

  But most JWs don't really care, neither are they listening to the talks etc. I think generally, its only the ones who care that leave, the others just shrug their shoulders.

  S
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  DA'ing coming up, to speak out now or not?

  by meat pie in

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  hi there, i know its up to me in the end, but just wondering, what would most of you do?

  my da'ing could be tonight, should i take the opportunity (before they can no longer speak to me ) to tell a few jw's that i am being da'd for telling the truth, or not to bother.

  does it matter anyway.

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  meat pie

  Hello again, Joy, my Mum first bought a Knitting machine in 1954 when she was expecting me, I have been m/c knitting for at least 40 years off and on.They are great, I collect old ones, (about 20 ) see ebay.(I'll give you my email address if you ever want to talk knitting machines)

  The MS told me privately his lack of belief in an effort to get me 'not to think too much' Ha Ha!

  Well, I called 'S', yes she had told Sis D, who is married to a MS, so I explained that the elders obviously didn't want me talking to anyone else, as nothing had changed with me in some years, and that I had done nothing scripturally wrong. She said she hadn't realised it should be kept secret, I said as it was the truth it shouldn't be secret, so I expect she'll get a visit soon. She doesn't go to many meetings and has more things than JW-ism on her mind right now anyway.

  I am glad I got that off my chest.

  I thought, what's the worst that can happen - she won't speak to me, which is what may happen anyway.

  I've heard it said that we rarely regret the things we do but the things we don't do.

  Thanks everyone, Shirley.
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  DA'ing coming up, to speak out now or not?

  by meat pie in

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  hi there, i know its up to me in the end, but just wondering, what would most of you do?

  my da'ing could be tonight, should i take the opportunity (before they can no longer speak to me ) to tell a few jw's that i am being da'd for telling the truth, or not to bother.

  does it matter anyway.

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  Hi Joy! 'the crack' means the chat, someone to talk to, but I like your mind!

  Well, I think they had to act on my talking about the UN thing, which is critical of the GB, therefore apostate, but they just wanted me to say I am no longer a JW (of course ) and do not recognise GB as FDS/ God's mouthpiece (obviously) .They didn't say it was the UN thing, I had already told one of the elders who came here Monday, so I told it all again to the other elder. Neither would look at my evidence. I had told another elder before that to not look at the written evidence was superstitious, was he afraid of a bit of paper? He is no longer an elder. Anyway the E's said they had faith in the GB/God it would all sort out in time. Oh yeah... well still not too sure what to do. I also have a knitting machine part velonging to a jw.

  Cheers, Shirley.
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  DA'ing coming up, to speak out now or not?

  by meat pie in

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  hi there, i know its up to me in the end, but just wondering, what would most of you do?

  my da'ing could be tonight, should i take the opportunity (before they can no longer speak to me ) to tell a few jw's that i am being da'd for telling the truth, or not to bother.

  does it matter anyway.

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  meat pie

  Hi there, I know its up to me in the end, but just wondering, what would most of you do? My DA'ing could be tonight, should I take the opportunity (before they can no longer speak to me ) to tell a few jw's that I am being da'd for telling the truth, or not to bother. Does it matter anyway. I haven't been told, but I strongly suspect the elders' visit was kicked off by my telling a female jw about UN thing, and she probably told someone else etc.

  To cut to the chase I told the elders that in no way do I consider myself a JW and I know the GB is corrupt and therefore cannot represent God.But I had told them that many times before, over a few years.

  So, should I ring the woman I spoke to most recently, she might be feeling bad about the whole thing,she is a 'part-time'JW, the only one in her family.Or should I just leave her to come to her own conclusions?

  Then there's my neighbour and her dad who studied with me, he's a MS who told me he doesn't believe many JW teachings, just goes for the crack 'cos he's a bit lonely.But almost every member of their family is JW,even related to the JW paedo in central Scotland, who was talked about on Panorama programme.

  Perhaps its a total waste of time.

  Cheers, Shirley.
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  National Geographic or Awake?

  by eyeslice in

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  with the imminent demise of the awake, being 'simplified' to a monthly journal; which monthly journal would be your magazine of choice - national geographical or awake?

  i read national geographic - it is well researched, it has fantastic photographs, and is printed on quality paper.

  with all the resources available to the wtbts, why hasn't the awake gotten any better?

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  meat pie

  I think the Fortean Times is excellent, full of life-changing information, like the article on the dog who gave birth to a kitten - yes it did ! No really it MUST be true.

  Actually, its a very good read and has a website too.

  I am a Meat Pie.
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  I am 2 B DA'd

  by meat pie in

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  well, not surprised, i have been telling them and others who ask that the org is hugely corrupt, apostate, blasphemers, hypocrites etc.

  maybe because i told someone about the un thing and she may have told someone else, or maybe they're just spring-cleaning.

  at any rate they(2 elders ) came round unannounced and beat about the bush in a pitiful way.i put them out of their misery eventually, by telling them that in no way did i consider myself a jw, nor did i believe the gb were god's mouthpiece.i said a lot more besides, i re-informed one, informed the other all about the un thing and offered him proof - no - he didn't want to see.

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  meat pie

  Thanks for all your replies. I am sorry that I will not get to W-S-M this year, thanks for asking. Turmoil at home that makes WTS fade into insignificance.We will survive no doubt.

  Cheers, Shirley.
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  I am 2 B DA'd

  by meat pie in

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  well, not surprised, i have been telling them and others who ask that the org is hugely corrupt, apostate, blasphemers, hypocrites etc.

  maybe because i told someone about the un thing and she may have told someone else, or maybe they're just spring-cleaning.

  at any rate they(2 elders ) came round unannounced and beat about the bush in a pitiful way.i put them out of their misery eventually, by telling them that in no way did i consider myself a jw, nor did i believe the gb were god's mouthpiece.i said a lot more besides, i re-informed one, informed the other all about the un thing and offered him proof - no - he didn't want to see.

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  meat pie

  Well, not surprised, I have been telling them and others who ask that the org is hugely corrupt, apostate, blasphemers, hypocrites etc. Maybe because I told someone about the UN thing and she may have told someone else, or maybe they're just spring-cleaning. At any rate they(2 elders ) came round unannounced and beat about the bush in a pitiful way.I put them out of their misery eventually, by telling them that in no way did I consider myself a JW, nor did I believe the GB were God's mouthpiece.I said a lot more besides, I re-informed one, informed the other all about the UN thing and offered him proof - no - he didn't want to see. I repeatedly asked them to tell me what I had done wrong scripturally, nothing forthcoming.Still no answer to my request for Biblical proof of a neccessity for a man-made religious organisation either.

  Sneaky elder said I could just make things easier by da' ing in writing, as they keep the records and this would mean they would no longer keep them. I said they had to have my annually renewed signature in order to keep the info so they shouldn't be keeping them anyway. ( To be honest, I wasn't 100% sure if that's the case in uk, but I said it with such force and authority that he went for it anyway)

  I am fortunate, I can shrug off the shunning, I know its not the same for most.

  I am satisfied that I tore them to shreds for over 2 hours. ( Not the first time ) I know it won't make any difference, but it made me feel better

  I breezily told them to ring and tell me when the announcement is made, adding that if the line's engaged they should leave a message.Bye!

  I don't think I'll bother to ring round any jw's to say 'goodbye' they weren't my friends anyway, so no loss.

  My husband told the elders it was their loss, not mine. Good-o!

  Shirley.